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George Washington to New Hampshire, 29 December 1777
(Detail, GLC03706)
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Great Depression, World War II, and the American West:
Court Restructuring – Two Perspectives
Perspective A - Roosevelt's Fireside Chat - March 9, 1937
by Debbie Coicca
Cinco Ranch High School
Katy (Houston), Texas
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Mid-Hudson Regional Information Center
http://www.mhric.org/fdr/chat9.html


In 1935-36, the Court struck down eight of FDR's New Deal programs, including
the National Recovery Act (NRA) and the Agricultural Adjustment Act (AAA). Public
antijudicial sentiment intensified; many critics questioned the constitutionality
of the concept of judicial review itself. After his election victory, however,
FDR submitted to Congress early in February 1937 a plan for "judicial reform,"
which forever came to be known as his attempt to "pack" the Supreme
Court by adding six additional justices.
His fireside chat of March 9, 1937 explains the rationale behind his court restructuring
plan and attempts to circumvent criticism by appealing directly to the American
people in terms which they could understand.


Fireside Chat on Reorganization of Judiciary - Abridged
Last Thursday I described in detail certain economic problems which everyone admits
now face the Nation. For the many messages which have come to me after that speech,
and which it is physically impossible to answer individually, I take this means
of saying "thank you." Tonight, sitting at my desk in the White House,
I make my first radio report to the people in my second term of office. In 1933,
you and I knew that we must never let our economic system get completely out of
joint again - that we could not afford to take the risk of another great depression.
We also became convinced that the only way to avoid a repetition of those dark
days was to have a government with power to prevent and to cure the abuses and
the inequalities which had thrown that system out of joint. We then began a program
of remedying those abuses and inequalities - to give balance and stability to
our economic system - to make it bomb-proof against the causes of 1929. Today,
we are only part-way through that program - and recovery is speeding up to a point
where the dangers of 1929 are again becoming possible, not this week or month
perhaps, but within a year or two. National laws are needed to complete that program.
Individual or local or state effort alone cannot protect us in 1937 any better
than ten years ago. If we learned anything from the depression, we will not allow
ourselves to run around in new circles of futile discussion and debate, always
postponing the day of decision. The Courts, however, have cast doubts on the ability
of the elected Congress to protect us against catastrophe by meeting squarely
our modern social and economic conditions. We are at a crisis in our ability to
proceed with that protection. I want to talk with you very simply about the need
for present action in this crisis - the need to meet the unanswered challenge
of one-third of a Nation ill-nourished, ill-clad, ill-housed.
Last Thursday I described the American form of Government as a three-horse team
provided by the Constitution to the American people so that their field might
be plowed. The three horses are, of course, the three branches of government -
the Congress, the Executive and the Courts. Two of the horses are pulling in unison
today; the third is not. Those who have intimated that the President of the United
States is trying to drive that team overlook the simple fact that the President,
as Chief Executive, is himself one of the three horses. It is the American people
themselves who are in the driver's seat. It is the American people themselves
who expect the third horse to pull in unison with the other two.
I hope that you have re-read the Constitution of the United States in these past
few weeks. Like the Bible, it ought to be read again and again. Since the rise
of the modern movement for social and economic progress through legislation, the
Court has more and more often and more and more boldly asserted a power to veto
laws passed by the Congress and State Legislatures in complete disregard of this
original limitation. In the last four years the sound rule of giving statutes
the benefit of all reasonable doubt has been cast aside. The Court has been acting
not as a judicial body, but as a policy-making body. When the Congress has sought
to stabilize national agriculture, to improve the conditions of labor, to safeguard
business against unfair competition, to protect our national resources, and in
many other ways to serve our clearly national needs, the majority of the Court
has been assuming the power to pass on the wisdom of these acts of the Congress
- and to approve or disapprove the public policy written into these laws. In the
face of these dissenting opinions, there is no basis for the claim made by some
members of the Court that something in the Constitution has compelled them regretfully
to thwart the will of the people.
The Court, in addition to the proper use of its judicial functions, has improperly
set itself up as a third house of the Congress - a super-legislature, as one of
the justices has called it - reading into the Constitution words and implications
which are not there, and which were never intended to be there.We have, therefore,
reached the point as a nation where we must take action to save the Constitution
from the Court and the Court from itself. We must find a way to take an appeal
from the Supreme Court to the Constitution itself. We want a Supreme Court which
will do justice under the Constitution and not over it. In our courts we want
a government of laws and not of men. I want - as all Americans want - an independent
judiciary as proposed by the framers of the Constitution. That means a Supreme
Court that will enforce the Constitution as written, that will refuse to amend
the Constitution by the arbitrary exercise of judicial power - in other words
by judicial say-so. It does not mean a judiciary so independent that it can deny
the existence of facts which are universally recognized.
When I commenced to review the situation with the problem squarely before me,
I came by a process of elimination to the conclusion that, short of amendments,
the only method which was clearly constitutional, and would at the same time carry
out other much-needed reforms, was to infuse new blood into all our Courts. We
must have men worthy and equipped to carry out impartial justice. But, at the
same time, we must have Judges who will bring to the Courts a present-day sense
of the Constitution - Judges who will retain in the Courts the judicial functions
of a court and reject the legislative powers which the courts have today assumed.
What is my proposal? It is simply this: whenever a Judge or Justice of any Federal
Court has reached the age of seventy and does not avail himself of the opportunity
to retire on a pension, a new member shall be appointed by the President then
in office, with the approval, as required by the Constitution, of the Senate of
the United States. That plan has two chief purposes. By bringing into the judicial
system a steady and continuing stream of new and younger blood, I hope, first,
to make the administration of all Federal justice speedier and, therefore, less
costly; secondly, to bring to the decision of social and economic problems younger
men who have had personal experience and contact with modern facts and circumstances
under which average men have to live and work. This plan will save our national
Constitution from hardening of the judicial arteries.
There is nothing novel or radical about this idea. It seeks to maintain the Federal
bench in full vigor. It has been discussed and approved by many persons of high
authority ever since a similar proposal passed the House of Representatives in
1869. Those opposing this plan have sought to arouse prejudice and fear by crying
that I am seeking to "pack" the Supreme Court and that a baneful precedent
will be established. Is it a dangerous precedent for the Congress to change the
number of the Justices? The Congress has always had, and will have, that power.
The number of justices has been changed several times before, in the administration
of John Adams and Thomas Jefferson - both signers of the Declaration of Independence
- Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln and Ulysses S. Grant. Like all lawyers, like
all Americans, I regret the necessity of this controversy. But the welfare of
the United States, and indeed of the Constitution itself, is what we all must
think about first. Our difficulty with the Court today rises not from the Court
as an institution but from human beings within it. But we cannot yield our constitutional
destiny to the personal judgement of a few men who, being fearful of the future,
would deny us the necessary means of dealing with the present.
I have thus explained to you the reasons that lie behind our efforts to secure
results by legislation within the Constitution. I hope that thereby the difficult
process of constitutional amendment may be rendered unnecessary. Even if an amendment
were passed, and even if in the years to come it were to be ratified, its meaning
would depend upon the kind of Justices who would be sitting on the Supreme Court
Bench. An amendment, like the rest of the Constitution, is what the Justices say
it is rather than what its framers or you might hope it is. This proposal of mine
will not infringe in the slightest upon the civil or religious liberties so dear
to every American. I am in favor of action through legislation: First, because
I believe that it can be passed at this session of the Congress. Second, because
it will provide a reinvigorated, liberal-minded Judiciary necessary to furnish
quicker and cheaper justice from bottom to top. Third, because it will provide
a series of Federal Courts willing to enforce the Constitution as written, and
unwilling to assert legislative powers by writing into it their own political
and economic policies.
During the past half century, the balance of power between the three great branches
of the Federal Government has been tipped out of balance by the Courts in direct
contradiction of the high purposes of the framers of the Constitution. It is my
purpose to restore that balance. You who know me will accept my solemn assurance
that in a world in which democracy is under attack, I seek to make American democracy
succeed. You and I will do our part.


1. Describe the metaphor that FDR uses for the American form of government? In
your viewpont describe another appropriate metaphor that could be employed in
this situation.
2. Explain FDR's main criticisms of the actions of the Supreme Court regarding
the New Deal.
3. How does FDR defend his court restructuring plan? Give specific examples.
4. Why does FDR argue against a constitutional amendment to restructure the judiciary?
5. If you were President Roosevelt, how would you deal with the Court's inflexibility?
Explain your viewpoint. 

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